150 – What’s NOT Working in this Season (with Christina Whitlock)

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In this special 150th episode, Amy chats with fellow piano teacher and podcaster Christina Whitlock. Following their “What’s Working” discussion on Beyond Measure, they share what’s not working this season—honest reflections, relatable struggles, and lighthearted insights. Don’t miss this candid and fun two-parter!

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Transcript

Welcome to the 150th episode of The Piano Pantry Podcast. I can’t believe we’ve made it here, 50 episodes a year for the past three years.

If you’re new around here, in this podcast, we talk about all things related to living the life of an independent music teacher. I’m Amy Chaplin, creator of this Podcast and the blog at PianoPantry.com. I love bringing teachers together, so every few episodes, I bring in a teacher friend for a nice casual chat. The last one was episode 145 with Jennifer Foxx from Music Educator Resources.

Today, I reserved the big number 150 for one of my long-time piano teacher pal, Indiana colleague, and fellow podcaster, Christina Whitlock who also has a fabulous podcast called Beyond Measure. I like to tell her she’s the counselor of piano teacher world.

We have a fun and lighthearted episode for you today. It’s a two-parter though. The first part dropped on Christina’s podcast yesterday as episode 198 where we each shared five things that are WORKING for us in this season.

Piggy-backing off that episode, we’re flip-flopping it today and sharing what’s NOT working for each of us in this season.

Christina has done a few of these episodes on her podcast, and I love it when I hear other podcasters do similar ones, whether it’s Kendra Adachi on The Lazy Genius Podcast or Emily P. Freeman on The Next Right Thing. I’ve been dying to do one of my own, as it totally fits the vibe of what I do, so it’s about time! Enjoy!


[00:01:48] Welcome Christina. Woo hoo. So glad to have you on the podcast. Now, the question was never a matter of. If I was going to actually have you on the podcast, but a matter of when, and you’ve been on the podcast before, I just have to [00:02:00] say, but always in talks with other teachers, groups, right? So this is the first time that we are just you and me. Yay.

[00:02:07] Christina: I can’t believe that, but it’s true,

[00:02:09] Amy: I feel like a bad friend or something, but I’ve just been holding off to have you for a big one. So I think I’ve told you this before And maybe my listeners, I don’t know. But there’s a podcast that I listen to and love, it’s called Homemaker Chic.

[00:02:23] And I’ve always aspired to the conversational manner that the two ladies on this podcast have with each other. It is so casual. It’s just like how I’ve always wanted my Teacher Talk episodes to feel. But as in all honesty, it’s really hard to achieve that. To make the conversation feel like it’s not an interview.

[00:02:43] And I think there’s two reasons for that. First, it’s just related to how well you know someone. And then the second, I think, is also your recording tools. Sometimes some recording things do better, I think, with the back and forth. I know on Zoom, we have to be careful about not interrupting each other.

[00:02:56] And I’m sure you learned the same thing. Anyways hashtag, [00:03:00] podcaster problems. So the pressure is on, and I have all the hope that today’s episode is going to be the perfect example of what I’ve been inspired to do for these teacher conversations. And it is going to be because we just recorded yours. for yesterday.

[00:03:12] It was awesome. So let’s dive in. Christina, you get to take it away first. What is not working for you in this season?

[00:03:22] Christina: That’s so funny you say that because the last time you and I did a conversation on my podcast, my husband, after he listened, was like, You can tell you guys are friends. It’s really obvious.

[00:03:34] I think we’re going to do just fine. And yeah. The big question. What is not working right now in this season of life? Oh, Amy. You’re going to laugh at me. It’s stuff. I have too much stuff. Like physical belongings are the bane of my existence right now. And we’re heading into the holiday season, and I just want to tell everyone, like, do not buy me anything.

[00:03:59] I [00:04:00] don’t want any stuff. Stuff and piano teacher problems. It’s right now. The music books are out of control people who know me and know my passions about the repertoire, I know the repertoire because I own the repertoire and I like to play through it. But the books are drowning me.

[00:04:20] Amy: Christina owns the whole plethora of the piano repertoire that is out there. Every single piece.

[00:04:26] Christina: It’s such a double-edged sword because, first of all, I love supporting our composers and publishers because I know we can’t do our job without them. So I always want to support them and purchase the stuff.

[00:04:40] And I love the stuff. But the physical management of it is just, it’s too much on my 42 year old brain. And you can see if you were watching this video, you would see I’m in my office, and we specifically bought this house largely because it has this great office off the studio with all [00:05:00] of these built-in cabinets.

[00:05:02] And I thought, Oh, good. My music will have a place to live. And, oh, I’ve so outgrown it. I was going to say you probably ran out quickly, even though there’s a lot of cabinet space. I did. I did. And it’s terrible. I have to downsize.

[00:05:16] Amy: I just had an idea, Christina. I’ve got your back. We should have a purging party. A piano teacher. A purging party. Sheet music purging party. What do you think? I think we should.

[00:05:29] Christina: That sounds great. I like it.

[00:05:31] Amy: Hold me to it. Okay. I think I feel so guilty getting rid of any of it, though, because I feel like it’s a personal affront to whoever wrote the book. And that’s silly. I need to take that off of myself. But we’ve talked about purging before. So, remember we were talking a couple of years ago about purging. What was it you were asking me about? College magazines or college notebooks or something like that. Yes. Yes. And yeah, a couple. What was it? A couple of years ago, I did a three-part series called The Great Purge here in the [00:06:00] podcast.

[00:06:00] Christina: You did.

[00:06:00] Amy: One was about purging like notebooks and magazines. One was about purging sheet music. And then, I don’t remember what the third one was, actually. Maybe teaching, oh, maybe it was teaching ideas or something like that. I think it was. Yeah. That sounds familiar. Anyways. I feel for you. I do, because I’m the same way. I am, like, big time, not about stuff. One thing I did learn from my mom, I will say, is that she was always growing up like, all right, we haven’t used it in a year; it’s gone. One year. Good for her.

[00:06:29] Christina: My threshold is a little bit bigger than that, I think. But yes, purging frequently is something I love doing. I grew up in a house of, not hoarders, but We collected a lot of stuff. My dad loved going to auctions and bringing home lots of miscellaneous stuff. Anyway, that’s not working for me. It’s all going to go.

[00:06:54] Amy: I’ll cheer you on. Thank you. All right. So, my first. thing. You ready to hear it?

[00:06:59] I am. [00:07:00] Is this such a petty little thing? I just have to say.

[00:07:05] Christina: That’s the joy of this list, though, like that’s why this works.

[00:07:08] Amy: It’s so petty, and I tell my students, this is about my students, and it is about letting them choose which post it color tab marker they want.

[00:07:19] I’ve been doing this for the entirety of my full-time teaching for 14 years, and it’s something I learned about from Piano Safari. I think they mentioned just a few ways that you can give students autonomy and choice. And I love that. Okay, they can choose what color they want for their tab marker.

[00:07:35] But it’s like, in the last six months, I’ve got so sick of having five different colors, and then I have to have little storage spaces for them. And then I, okay, what color do you have? And then. For the next student, okay, what color do you have? And I’m like, this is driving me insane. So I was just finally done.

[00:07:49] And just yesterday, I’ve been doing it for like maybe a couple of weeks where I was just like done with maybe a little longer. And one of my students was like, I’m purple. And I said, not anymore. [00:08:00] No, actually I didn’t say it like that, but I wish I would.

[00:08:02] Christina: I wish you wouldn’t do it because that’s so funny.

[00:08:07] Amy: Honestly, the kids don’t care. Most of the time, especially the older ones, they’re like, I don’t really care. So I just let it go and it feels so good.

[00:08:16] Christina: Congratulations. That feels like a good letting go, but that’s so funny. Not anymore, honey. Not anymore, honey. Oh boy. Oh my gosh.

[00:08:27] Amy: Okay. We’re in so much trouble. Hit me next one.

[00:08:29] Christina: Okay, okay. Here’s one that some people listening will relate to and others will not, and you already know this about me this year, but I am over online business advice. Like I, all the online business guru types. It’s not that they’re all ba,d and it’s not that some of them aren’t doling out valuable information, but I cannot listen to them anymore.

[00:08:56] I’ve deleted them all off my podcast feed. I’ve [00:09:00] unsubscribed email lists. I, when you’re in this content creation space, and you know this so well, I’ve As we go through these waves and these moments of okay, I need to grow my email list, and oh, I need to grow this. And I need to show up here more and do this more.

[00:09:16] It becomes very like numbers and data-driven, and in the piano teacher space, that’s just challenging for many reasons. And it just constantly leaves me feeling like I just don’t have enough time, and I’m not doing enough, and my work isn’t good enough, and my list isn’t long enough, and all the things, and I’ve just decided I have to turn it off.

[00:09:41] I think studio teachers run into this with all the like studio growth promises made in different social media accounts and all that stuff. And I just so much of the time. The more I work with teachers, the more it’s just, you know what, put your head down and do your work and crank out [00:10:00] your work and do your business.

[00:10:02] And that will yield you better results than consuming all of this other content from other people.

[00:10:09] Amy: I agree 100%. And yes, I’ve heard you say that here quite a bit recently, but I am totally. In team agreement with Christina. And actually, the second one that I have is almost exactly like that.

[00:10:19] So I am totally over social media right now. I’m just in the phase of I just, I’m over it. I don’t really desire to get on. I’ve not been nearly as present; I’m not posting nearly as much. And I’ve decided I just need to let it go, there was, for a couple of years, I was like, I need to do more, I want to do more I want to engage more online.

[00:10:37] And I did, and it was all okay, but now I’m just blah. It’s fun, but I just have had to let it go and realize, you know what, I don’t have to be in this space all the time or even regularly. I’m like, for example, Facebook, I don’t even have that app on my home screen anymore on my phone.

[00:10:55] It’s just in the app library, and I just go in there. When I feel like it [00:11:00] basically, and not when it tells me that I should. So anyway, I’m sure it’ll cycle in and out. I’ll be in a phase where I’m all about it again. And, it’s a part of our world, and it’s all, there’s all good things.

[00:11:10] But right now, I’m in a phase where it’s just not working for me, and I just don’t really care to be there.

[00:11:14] Christina: There you have it. I think I, because I almost. I made one on my list for the algorithm because, like the algorithm that runs all of social media, it’s not working for me right now because, for whatever reason, it’s not giving me a lot of piano teacher content.

[00:11:29] Like I’ve slipped into the corner of the internet with a lot of mental health advice and like motivational stuff. It’s all great, but that’s what my feed is comprised of, like on Instagram. And I realized I’m no longer seeing the content from my piano teacher friends.

[00:11:45] And so I’m trying to be conscious about engaging with those accounts more and hopefully retraining the algorithm. But this is not how I want to spend my time. I’m with you.

[00:11:55] Yeah, you can do things on the timeline of I don’t want to see this content, but it gets annoying having [00:12:00] to do that.

[00:12:00] I’m like, so I’m seeing these ads, and it’s not for anything I really care to see,

[00:12:03] Amy: yeah. Anyways, we could go down a big hole in this.

[00:12:06] Christina: We could, we sure could. All right, go ahead and give me your third one. Okay. I’ll tell you what, this is also something you’ve talked about on your podcast, but what is not working for me right now is my waitlist. I have been in this holding pattern of I’ve got to deal with this for so long. And I haven’t dealt with it and I currently use my music staff. And so it gives you a little update every time you sign in, and it’s like current students, 40 current waiting list, 52. And so, of course, I don’t have 52 people who are actively probably seeking lessons with me because some of them have been on there for years, and I’m sure they’ve.

[00:12:45] Giving up and moving on, I hope, but it’s they just keep filtering in and I need to just shut that down and put a new message up. That’s why I’m not taking anyone anymore and start [00:13:00] trying to siphon them off to other teachers, which is just challenging in my area. There aren’t a lot of us right now, which is why I have such a large list.

[00:13:07] It’s not because I’m that amazing, but I don’t know.

[00:13:10] Amy: So I’ve been there and done that. Yeah. I’ve been there and done that. I had a waitlist on my music staff, and I finally shut it off and said my comments. I’m not taking any students. You can’t when you can only take one student a year.

[00:13:22] I know. It’s not practical to leave people on there for years, so it’s like the whole, what was your first one, Christina, about the hoarding thing or just so much stuff? Honestly, having a waitlist like that, to me, is such a weight on me. To log into your account and see that every single day.

[00:13:38] Yeah.

[00:13:39] Yeah. What a weight that is. Yeah. Yeah, because it’s no pun intended. What is the weight of that?

[00:13:45] Christina: Okay. That was really good. A plus pun there, Amy. Yeah, because it is it’s this reminder to me that some kids and adults are out there who need lessons, who want lessons and who would [00:14:00] benefit from lessons.

[00:14:00] And I can’t provide that to them right now. But it drives me crazier than I can begin to admit. And also like it feels like a miss of a financial opportunity, and yet it’s not because I just can’t, I’m not willing to take any more.

[00:14:15] Amy: You can’t do it all. Yeah. You can’t do it all.

[00:14:17] Christina: All right. Lay me on another one, Amy.

[00:14:19] Amy: I don’t have one related to that particularly. We were piggybacking off of each other a little bit at first. But my next one is my website. So my Piano Pantry website, I’ve had troubles for a year. And I’ve been ignoring it because I’ve been doing things on my own for so long.

[00:14:36] And then just other things, like the podcast takes a lot of time now, and I’ve been ignoring my website quite a bit, which I hate, which is another thing I’m going to talk about. But yeah, so I finally just took the leap and hired help. And I now have someone who actually knows what they’re doing more than me on the back end of my website.

[00:14:54] So Yeah, I’ve got like hosting changes done and everything. So my website is moving [00:15:00] so much better now. It’s so much faster. There are issues getting worked out. So even though it’s starting to work for me now, it has not been working for me very well here recently. So yes, and that has been a really heavy thing on my shoulders, just really.

[00:15:14] Bearing me down as like I told my mastermind girls, what, six months ago, I would say that I was ready to hire help for my site, and it just, everything else gets put in front of it. And I finally did it. And yeah, I should have done it a long time ago, but

[00:15:27] Christina: I’m proud of you and I’m envious of you.

[00:15:29] And I need to piggyback on that same goal because. So what people should know is that you have done so much in terms of learning how to run your website so much more than other teachers. I know you’ve went into the weeds and figured out so much stuff. So you were so capable for so long.

[00:15:48] But this technology is just always changing. And it’s hard to run this stuff. There’s a reason why there are experts out there who do this for their full-time work. And, we’re all [00:16:00] careful with our pennies, but in this content creation space, I’m with you. I think it’s worth it to start offloading some of that.

[00:16:08] I have built myself a website that I just constantly am aggravated by, too. So I need to do the same thing.

[00:16:14] Amy: It’s preaching to ourselves as teachers. Just like what you said, there are people out there You know what they’re doing. So if we want people out there to hire people who know what they’re doing and not just send their kids to YouTube, it’s preaching to ourselves. Okay. You need to do the same thing for this as you do for yourself.

[00:16:31] Christina: It’s exactly like what you said last week in your episode about Coinhop going away and all of our payment processing options. It’s like you went to your bank and you talked to the at your bank because, Oh yeah, they’re the people that know this stuff. We all try to piece this information together and Oh, wait, some people like, why don’t I actually go to an expert?

[00:16:53] Amy: Yes, exactly.

[00:16:54] Christina: So let’s normalize just taking our problems to the people who know. [00:17:00]

[00:17:01] Amy: All right. We got, what, two more to go? So, what’s your number four?

[00:17:04] Christina: I think so. I’ll tell you what, let’s talk about MTNA the national conference in Minneapolis.

[00:17:11] Amy: What’s not working for you? Oh, yes. Oh, I know.

[00:17:13] Christina: No, hot take. No, I love MTNA for the record. That sounded deceptive. No, please let the record state. Christina Whitlack loves MTNA. I credit that organization for so much of my growth and development and identity as a teacher. So 100 percent team MTNA. But so the national conference is in March in Minneapolis.

[00:17:37] And I have been pumped and ready to go for, I don’t know, ever since they announced it was going to be in Minneapolis like I’ve never been, and I have friends in the area, and I was like, all right, can’t wait to go in Minneapolis. And in the last couple of months, I can’t describe it. But like every ounce of desire to go to that conference has been zapped from my body. And I don’t [00:18:00] know, I can’t explain it other than I, I just feel like maybe it’s some kind of I don’t know, divine intervention that’s telling me that’s not a good idea to go. So I don’t know if something will be going on in my life or if I’m sounding like a crazy person, and I’m reading way too much into whatever it is, but I just.

[00:18:19] Amy: And I think, yeah, instinct is where it is.

[00:18:22] Christina: Yeah, there’s some nope, I’m not going in. I didn’t go to Atlanta last year, and I was mopey about it the whole week. I was so sad because I just felt like I was missing out. I’m a big fear of missing out kind of girl. And And yet, so here I am.

[00:18:38] I guess I’m going to be feeling the same way, but I cannot even get myself to even think about going. I don’t know what that is, but NCKP is in July, and I will go to that.

[00:18:47] Amy: It’ll be great. Yeah. I think that’s a good one because it’s something that you usually love doing. So the fact that you’re not going is not working for you because you’re like, this is what I normally love doing.

[00:18:56] Christina: Right. I know. And it’s funny because we have [00:19:00] one of our local festival events happening that weekend. So I wasn’t originally going to do it. And then now I guess I will go back to doing it. And I said something about the festival to my husband the other night, and he was like, but you’re not doing it.

[00:19:12] And I said, Oh yeah, I am. And he’s what do you mean? And I said I’m not going to go to Minneapolis. I guess I forgot to tell him that I wasn’t. And he was like, but you love going and you were so upset last year when you weren’t there. I was like, yeah, I know. I can’t describe it, but. I’m actually not going to go this year either.

[00:19:30] Amy: I was still back and forth on it. Yeah, but I got accepted to present at Texas. So I’m going to be in Texas in June and then NCKP, hopefully as well. And then we’re doing some international travel in August. So it’s just ah, it’s going to be already a crazy summer. So I’m like, I’m sorry, MTNA, not this year.

[00:19:44] Christina: I know. I am sorry too, MTNA. Have a great time.

[00:19:50] Amy: All right, here we go. My fourth one.

[00:19:52] Christina: Go for it, Amy.

[00:19:53] Amy: is, this is a personal one, and I did a personal one too on the last one, it ties to one that I mentioned yesterday. And that is [00:20:00] just what is not working for me is getting older. I’m in my mid-forties right now. And I have acid reflux. And, I have trouble with my left shoulder, and I have to go to the orthopedic doctor. My husband is a couple of years older, and he’s been having back troubles and he’s been having really bad dry eye issues from staring at a computer screen. And has just been having to go to the eye doctor a lot.

[00:20:24] So we both need MRIs. You’ll be back, me for my shoulder, but we have to both do six weeks of physical therapy before they’ll approve it. And I’ve already done six weeks of physical therapy a couple of years ago for my shoulder, but they don’t accept that, yada. So it’s just, ugh, we’re just in this place right now.

[00:20:37] We’re like, we’re both going to all these doctor’s appointments. And it’s a little bit crazy. And I’m just like, ugh, this is not fun. A taste of getting older. I don’t feel like I’m old, but when you start getting little things like this, you’re like, all right, middle-age is setting in time to accept the facts.

[00:20:53] Christina: Yeah. My poor husband’s been dealing with all kinds of back stuff, too. And he just said last night, he was like, [00:21:00] is this just how life is now? It felt so badly for him.

[00:21:04] Amy: I was like, drew and I, so he’s had horrible back trouble for a while. And the chair that he sits in is really broken down. So that was another thing.

[00:21:11] Like in the last couple of weeks, we drove around. Shopping for a new office chair for him because he’s it’s something you want to sit in too, and if you’re having back problems, you need a good chair to sit in for sure when you’re working at a computer all day.

[00:21:22] So, anyways, yes, that’s mine. You’re younger than me, so you hang on to it for a while, Christina.

[00:21:29] Christina: I’m not that much younger than you.

[00:21:32] Amy: All right, friend, give me your last one.

[00:21:34] Christina: Okay. Speaking of friends, I think what’s not working for me right now Is time with my real life friends and keeping up with my real life friends I think because I’ve created this great, incredible network of teacher supporters from the beyond measure work I do that’s all great.

[00:21:52] And I feel like I’m somehow better at keeping up with them than I am with a lot of my real. Life compatriots. [00:22:00] And I think it’s partially because I’ve built me, or I’ve built this whole podcast around the idea of being the anytime piano teacher friend, right? Like the idea is that we all need time together, but we need it to be on our own schedules.

[00:22:15] So that’s why podcasting works because we can listen whenever we want. And. I’m like, I need my friends to work on my own schedule, and that doesn’t work, right? Yeah, your real-life friends, yep. Yeah, so I’m like, and I can respond to teacher friends online at any hour of the day, and they’ll deal with it when they get to it but my real-life friends, I’m like, gosh, I need to be more intentional about setting Real time and real attention and checking in with them more frequently.

[00:22:44] Because I just feel like I’m in a lot of lopsided friendships right now where people check in on me and I am not holding up my end of the bargain. So I’m going to work on that.

[00:22:55] Amy: That is such a good one. And I love that. It’s like a real, like real life, real personal, [00:23:00] like people you care about. It’s a people thing, basically. Yeah. That’s a really good one to be aware of.

[00:23:06] Christina: Amy, what you got for our final wrap-up here?

[00:23:08] Amy: All right. The last one. Drum roll, please. Drum roll. All right. What is not working for me right now?

[00:23:19] Here it goes. I’m scared to say this one out loud. Oh. You know what it is. It’s not that bad, guys. It’s having it’s having a weekly podcast. You know how much work it is. So much work. And for years, you’ve been almost four years here, of fifty episodes a year, and I put it on myself. It’s like nobody told me that I had to do that, like that.

[00:23:39] But I’m just tired, and I’m 99. 5 percent sure that going into 2025, I’m going to just make some adjustments. I love the podcast, and I am still gonna do it. But I will probably move to twice a month, like every other week kind of a deal. Just to have a bit more balance in my life because the podcast is overtaken a lot.

[00:23:58] I miss my [00:24:00] blog like I miss having time to produce more resources for my blog. And yeah, I just feel like all I ever post there anymore is Friday Finds, and I hate that. I love my Friday Finds and people love my Friday finds, but I don’t like that’s the only thing that pops up on my blog feed right now.

[00:24:14] So yeah, so I just want to have more balance and more of a blend of what I’m doing in that arena in my work for teachers. So yeah it’s been a hard decision, but it’s just sometimes you just have to do. What supports your life in a better way is going to be one of those things.

[00:24:28] Christina: Well, and here’s what’s great about it for us: you want to back off of the podcast scheduling a little bit so that you can still work for teachers, just other areas. So we’re not losing out on that. And I just want to affirm you that, I listened to a lot of podcasts that are not every week, and I get excited when they pop up in my feed because I’ll be like, Oh, there’s a new episode of so and and, it’s that whole absence makes the heart grow fonder thing. It gives people a chance to miss you. Like maybe [00:25:00] I need to back off too. I don’t know.

[00:25:01] Amy: All the, like the podcast growth things, say, Oh, you need consistency. Are you going to lose followers if you don’t do it every week and aren’t consistent. Okay, what’s important in my life, exactly? To be sane – that’s pretty important. Or to have consistency of listeners? It’s the same thing like you said I have been also considering that I don’t really pay much attention to how often my people publish that I like listening to.

[00:25:25] Christina: And I, more appreciative when I don’t hear the person maybe as much and then you do hear an episode. So yeah, I think it’s going to be okay. It’s going to be just fine. Plus, what do I always say? You are my champion for changing things up when they’re not working for you anymore.

[00:25:43] Amy: That’s right. I’m taking my own advice, right?

[00:25:45] Christina: Take your own advice. And again, we’re still going to get plenty of Amy Chaplin’s advice, which is so great. What we all want. I don’t know about that. What we all need.

[00:25:55] Amy: I appreciate the encouragement. Anyway, awesome, Christina. [00:26:00]

[00:26:00] You’re so used to being a podcast host. You almost closed us out, didn’t you?

[00:26:04] Christina: I really did.

[00:26:06] Amy: That’s hilarious. And I’m totally leaving this in the episode.

[00:26:11] Christina: I’ll take it. I’ll take it.

[00:26:12] Amy: Thank you so much for being on today. This has been full of laughs, and it feels so good to say some of these things out loud. I will definitely do more of these episodes in the future.

[00:26:22] So thank you for doing this with me. It’s been fun. And yeah, have a great holiday season.

[00:26:28] Christina: Same to you, Amy. Thanks for having me.


Wahoo, you guys! The 150th episode is a wrap and I can’t wait to continue this journey with you in the future, only a little less often as you heard me talk about.

For a little more holiday cheer, I invite you to go back and listen to a few holiday-related episodes of the podcast, including:

The Piano Pantry Podcast #047 – Holiday Activities for your December group classes

The Piano Pantry Podcast #092 – Shake up your holiday performances

The Piano Pantry Podcast #099 – Holiday wishes (AI-style)

The Piano Pantry Podcast #146 – ICYMI: Versatile Christmas Music

If you have enjoyed and gleaned from this podcast in any way over the past 150 episodes, you would do my content creator heart well if you would consider supporting the podcast on Patreon. For only $4 a month, you will be teaming up with other teachers to say, “Yes, please keep this going.”

Visit PianoPantry.com/patreon to join today. Another way you can give me a small token gift this holiday season is to give the podcast a 5-star rating and, if you can spare a few more minutes, a review.

Have a great holiday break, and I’ll see you in 2025!